Rosegroove’s Razz Poker Blog

Played some razz this morning and ended up at a very loose table to say the least and caught the nuts but made one mistake. Not checking the nuts for value.

Full Tilt Poker Game #4867167794: Table Spring Mountain - $0.50/$1 Ante $0.10 - Limit Razz - 6:09:28 ET - 2008/01/15
Seat 1: Poker Nigel ($9.70)
Seat 2: rosegroove ($18.10)
Seat 3: Bordaj ($11.20)
Seat 4: HHaberkorn ($17.75)
Seat 5: Sushi Time ($8.60)
Seat 6: crackyourase ($0.30)
Seat 7: Robbie Ann ($57.10)
Seat 8: sehwa ($12.30)
Robbie Ann antes $0.10
rosegroove antes $0.10
HHaberkorn antes $0.10
Bordaj antes $0.10
Sushi Time antes $0.10
crackyourase antes $0.10
Poker Nigel antes $0.10
sehwa antes $0.10
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to Poker Nigel [4c]
Dealt to rosegroove [5s 4s] [8h]

Marginal hand at almost any table. But this one was loose and only two door cards that had me beat.

Dealt to Bordaj [9h]
Dealt to HHaberkorn [9s]
Dealt to Sushi Time [Ac]
Dealt to crackyourase [Ts]
Dealt to Robbie Ann [Kd]
Dealt to sehwa [9c]
Robbie Ann is high with [Kd]
Robbie Ann has 15 seconds left to act
Robbie Ann brings in for $0.15
sehwa folds
Poker Nigel folds
rosegroove calls $0.15
Bordaj folds
HHaberkorn calls $0.15
Sushi Time calls $0.15
crackyourase completes it to $0.20, and is all in
Robbie Ann has 15 seconds left to act
Robbie Ann calls $0.05
rosegroove calls $0.05
HHaberkorn calls $0.05
Sushi Time calls $0.05

Loose indead.
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to rosegroove [5s 4s 8h] [2d]
Dealt to HHaberkorn [9s] [Kh]
Dealt to Sushi Time [Ac] [7d]
Dealt to crackyourase [Ts] [5d]
Dealt to Robbie Ann [Kd] [3h]
Sushi Time checks
Robbie Ann checks

Great card for me but also for limpers, I’m pretty sure i’m ahead here.

rosegroove bets $0.50
HHaberkorn calls $0.50
Sushi Time calls $0.50
Robbie Ann calls $0.50
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to rosegroove [5s 4s 8h 2d] [3s]
Dealt to HHaberkorn [9s Kh] [2c]
Dealt to Sushi Time [Ac 7d] [Jh]
Dealt to crackyourase [Ts 5d] [6d]
Dealt to Robbie Ann [Kd 3h] [4h]
rosegroove bets $1

Nut draw.
HHaberkorn calls $1
Sushi Time folds
Robbie Ann calls $1
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to rosegroove [5s 4s 8h 2d 3s] [Ah]
Dealt to HHaberkorn [9s Kh 2c] [2h]
Dealt to crackyourase [Ts 5d 6d] [5c]
Dealt to Robbie Ann [Kd 3h 4h] [Qc]
rosegroove bets $1

I hit the absolute nuts but makes the big mistake of betting here. There’s no chance I will get more money out of the pot by betting here. I chould have checked and hoped that someone catched. Since the table is loose I might get called on 7th street with a marginal hand.
HHaberkorn folds
Robbie Ann has 15 seconds left to act
Robbie Ann folds
rosegroove shows [5s 4s 8h 2d 3s Ah]
crackyourase shows [4d 9d Ts 5d 6d 5c]
Uncalled bet of $1 returned to rosegroove
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to rosegroove [5s 4s 8h 2d 3s Ah] [7h]
Dealt to crackyourase [4d 9d Ts 5d 6d 5c] [Jd]
rosegroove wins the side pot ($4.75)
rosegroove shows [5s 4s 8h 2d 3s Ah 7h] 5,4,3,2,A
crackyourase shows [4d 9d Ts 5d 6d 5c Jd] T,9,6,5,4
rosegroove wins the main pot ($1.75) with 5,4,3,2,A
crackyourase stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.80 Main pot $1.80. Side pot $5. | Rake $0.30
Seat 1: Poker Nigel folded on 3rd St.
Seat 2: rosegroove showed [5s 4s 8h 2d 3s Ah 7h] and won ($6.50) with 5,4,3,2,A
Seat 3: Bordaj folded on 3rd St.
Seat 4: HHaberkorn folded on 6th St.
Seat 5: Sushi Time folded on 5th St.
Seat 6: crackyourase showed [4d 9d Ts 5d 6d 5c Jd] and lost with T,9,6,5,4
Seat 7: Robbie Ann folded on 6th St.
Seat 8: sehwa folded on 3rd St.

I would always check when I know I have the absolute nuts on a board even if that nuts is 7-high that can’t be beat by a draw. Yes it may be a obvious move but I think it’s the best move in such a situation. You will win the pot anyway so you might aswell give it a shot.

Here’s a link to a short interview with T.J. Cloutier about some basic razz strategies. He doesn’t seem too happy for the game though.  Link

Here is a little low-stakes proof of concept relating to the post When is it ok to limp?
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It’s common wisdom that a 8-high hand with the 8 as a door card is a bad hand to get into a pot with, but when would you play it then? Hands such as A-7-8 is truly a terrible hand and something that I almost always throw away in any situation unless it’s only me and the bring-in left or there is one lone donkey with an obviously worse hand in front of you and only high cards behind you.

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Was reading a post over at Brickin The Nutz about limping:

“Since poker is conditional though, with nothing set in stone, limping does have it’s place, but usually in a situation where you’re slow playing a super strong starting hand against a lone opponent and you don’t want to chase him out early.”

This made me start to think about when it’s ok to limp in a game of razz. (more…)